In Memory Of Dr. Gladys McGarey: Discovering Love, Life, and Laughter at 103 and Guide to Thriving Through Adventure and Compassion Across a Century

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So, really sad news. I don't know if you remember, great podcast guest. She's been on twice. Gladys McGarey, 103 years old, a doctor. You know, I think about the things she said in this podcast almost every single day, to be honest. Like, how do you live to have such a high quality of life and be happy all the way up to and through the age of 103 and still be, you know, she was a doctor, is still practicing.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was actually even going to visit her next month. I was going to Arizona and I was going to see if I could see her and interview her in person, but just heard she passed away the other day and really sad about it. Such a life-changing guest. We're re-releasing that podcast here. And even if you've listened to it, listen again, I don't know what else to say. It's just really wise person.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's worth, in our society, listening to and really taking close to heart the advice of the elders who have been there, done it, and have the wisdom to tell the tale. And here she is, Gladys McGarey.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: This isn't your average business podcast, and he's not your average host. This is The James Altucher Show.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: How are you feeling?

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm feeling fine. I had that accident with a tricycle, broke three ribs, but that's five weeks ago and I'm all well.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Wait a second. You had an accident with a tricycle, you broke three ribs, and of course, any statement like that has to be followed with, and now you're 103 or 104 years old. How old are you?

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm 103 still.

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I don't want to make you older than you are.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I have to live each moment to get to be 104, so I still am 103.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and so, okay, you've had this tricycle accident. What happened?

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was riding my tricycle, and she got stuck in one of the dips in the road and tossed me.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: She threw me off, and I landed on my back and broke three ribs, and now I'm punishing her because she's in the back of my porch,

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and I told her she shouldn't have done that.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, we're writing our story about how she tossed me.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And can I ask, were you scared when you realized you had been hurt?

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it hurt.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know whether I was scared or not.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess I was, but, you know, those things are frightening, and I didn't know what had happened, but I knew I hurt.

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And so we got an x-ray, and there it was.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And the first x-ray said that I had one of the ribs that was not attached.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was, you know, it had not gotten, it had gotten detached.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_02]: But the next x-ray we got, it had found its place, and we were back in shape.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And now you're feeling fully recovered or mostly recovered?

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It's healed.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, and this is why, look, in your book, The Well-Lived Life, you share these six secrets,

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: which really are more difficult than they sound, a lot of these secrets.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I read the book a year ago when we first spoke, and I read the book more recently to prepare for this.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And I really find myself kind of in tears when I'm reading it, particularly towards the end,

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_00]: and you're describing, you know, painful experiences that you've been through.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, this is going to sound weird, but I don't know if I want to live to be your age.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Does that sound weird?

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_02]: No, because I don't know that I want to live, but how long I want to live.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it depends on how much I can do to accomplish what needs to be accomplished.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's life that needs to be lived, people that are reaching for their true humanity.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I think all around the world, that's what's happening, because that's what I'm hearing from people.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_02]: The stories that I'm getting from people are about how they were in a spot where they feel really, really stuck.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And some of the words that they read or heard or lived help them to get out of that stuck place and go on with their lives.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's that kind of life-giving juice that love carries through from one person to the next.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me ask you, like when you were going through your divorce, for instance, with Bill, which happened after 46 years of marriage,

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_00]: did you feel, for instance, loved during those moments?

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I was so shattered.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I was so broken.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I was totally useless.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I was in my car.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I was screaming at the universe.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I was yelling at God.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I was saying all kinds of, do you want to know, don't want to know, and stuff.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But I was so broken that I just, I'd gotten to the point where I couldn't go on any further.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And I pulled the car over to the side of the road.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And I said to myself, am I going to spend the rest of my life this way, feeling this way?

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And the words came down to me.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the day the Lord has made.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Let us rejoice and be glad in it.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It had my name in it.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Be glad.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I back up.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And I went to my home, which at that point was empty except for the dog.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And I changed my license plate.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And my license plate read, be glad for the rest of the time I was in Phoenix doing my medical work.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that every day that I went to my car, I had to see that.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And people behind me in the traffic had to see that.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So I was carrying the message of be glad around for the rest of the time I was in practice here.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_02]: It was that kind of a moment in time when my total brokenness brought me to my knees enough that I was able to answer that.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you mentioned how people are trying to find their true humanity.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And how you say in the book is you were always identifying yourself as Bill's wife and then Bill's divorced wife.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And you guys introduced yourself as Drs. Bill and Gladys.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, you had to almost recreate, you had to find your true humanity then.

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I had to.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I then became Dr. Gladys.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Up until then, I was Bill and Gladys.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And you talk about how it's possible to learn lessons in these moments when it seems like it's impossible to learn from them.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you look back over prior times where you had been hurt and you kind of have to, you almost have to make this lawyer-like argument with yourself that, okay, I've had bad moments in the past.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I learned from them in the past, which means I can learn from them now.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I think is an interesting and useful technique.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm sure when you're actually in the moment when you have to do that, it's very difficult.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's difficult because you don't know the next step.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And you have to live it.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, because the next step was, okay, if this is what you're going to spend the rest of your life doing, face up to it.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and it was horrible.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the things I was saying, the things I was doing my whole life at that point was in tatters.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So I had to do something with it.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_02]: The important thing was just stop long enough to be glad about what it is and then see where you go.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what's happened.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's, I mean, look, you've lived such an interesting life starting from your parents.

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like your parents worked as, you know, doctors in India.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You grew up all over the place.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You've met so many interesting people and you've been all over the world.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but it's hard to think.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're, I mean, you mentioned how you used to drive a Model A Ford.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And now people are like casually going into space.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like hard to grasp.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But I wanted to ask you specific things.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, you mentioned in the acknowledgments about Edgar Cayce, for instance.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So Edgar Cayce is known for, you know, he had, he wrote books about having psychic powers and he was able to predict things.

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You also met with, you know, so many times with Milton Erickson, who was like the founder of various branches of psychology.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you've had this fascinating adventure, 103 year adventure.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And what was Milton Erickson like?

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he, he created hypnotherapy and he convinced him, he hypnotized himself into not believing he could be, you know, crippled from polio.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to ask you specifically, like, what was that like meeting him and seeing him go through this experience?

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He was, he was a funny guy.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he, he was colorblind.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_02]: His wife had all of his clothes on the color because he was colorblind.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And he would get the weird colors off.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, he was a very opinionated.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And actually, amazingly, his opinion used to, they'd stop us in the middle of what we were saying and think, you know, what was that he said?

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it was that kind of a guy.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't just say empty things.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: He said things that stopped us where we were thinking and made us think again.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So when we had, when my husband Bill met him at a meeting, a medical meeting, and brought him, and they came home and we started these evenings on Tuesday nights of having, there were about five.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I was the only woman, but there were about five of us who would come together on a Tuesday night just to talk about stuff that Milton was talking about.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But at that point, I was pregnant.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And by the time I was eight months pregnant, they were staying until two o'clock in the morning on this.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And I finally kicked him out because I had to get my arrest.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: But it was a good thing because when they left, they had to create something else.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And they created the American Hypnosis Association.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, it's that kind of an amazing aspect to life itself.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_02]: If you have to go through certain things and you're actually able to step and take a step forward, it may seem like the wrong thing to do.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But if it's for the right reason, just do it.

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like what's an example?

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, kicking them out to start the American Hypnosis Society was the right thing to do.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know it was the right thing to do.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I just knew I had to take care of this baby and myself.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And so they better take care of themselves.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And they did.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And do you think, how do you think he did, like how does the mind work?

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like how did he basically get himself going again?

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, having polio seems to have permanent physical effects.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And yet through the mind, he was able to recover some abilities that he had lost through polio.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he found his juice, okay?

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He found the words that he could say that would allow other people to pay attention to the things he was thinking.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what happened with us as a small group.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: We began to listen to the things that Milton Erickson was saying and thinking, you know, he's right.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And how do we put that into context with our lives?

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And so from that step on, it took the next step the way life does.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, sometimes I would like to believe these things and kind of use the enormous power of the mind to help my life and to move it forward.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But there's so much baggage in there, at least telling me that it's just not going to work.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That I don't have that kind of power over reality.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, people always say you view the world from your perspective only.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's only your perspective that you see the outside world.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But I also sort of feel like there's this reality, too.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: We all kind of share this reality and world.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes things are bad.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes things are good.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But I can't have any control over that.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me tell you a story, okay?

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Because my life goes on a story about another James.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I had a friend named James McCready.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And he was a family friend.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: We all loved James.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And then he moved into dementia.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So we had to put him into a facility where he'd be taken care of.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And so he had his room, and it was a nice room and all of that.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And I went to visit him one day and took him a little plant, a little green plant in a little pot.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And when I took it to him, I said, now, James, this is your plant.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_02]: But it needs to be loved, and it needs to be taken care of.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, he's looking all around the world.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't respond so that I thought he was even understanding what I was saying.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But I was saying it anyway.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, it's going to need water, and it's going to need sunshine.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's your plant to love and take care of.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And I talked to him a little bit about this.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And I put the plant on his windowsill, and I left.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And a week later, I came back, and he met me at the door because he knew that I was coming up.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And he met me at the door, and he said, magic, magic, magic.

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, what, what?

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And so he said, come, magic.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And we went into his room, and he says, box.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And he took me over to the air conditioning box on the wall.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And he says, look, push this button.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything is cool and nice, and plant loves it.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But he says, push this button.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, everything hot, awful.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Plant doesn't like it.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what he told me.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And I realized that he, in his state of whatever you want to call it, being alive,

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_02]: had taken the message and had put it into action

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and created a relationship, a loving relationship with the plant in a way that was giving him juice.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It's that amazing kind of ability that we each have to reach to some other living thing.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, that little plant wasn't anything to speak of.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I just took a little grim plant to him.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And he took that and was able to create a story for himself that allowed him to get some juice back in his life

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_02]: because he connected with another living thing.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So who are we to say what is the process of reaching to other people

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and reaching to other aspects of our lives around the world?

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Because all of the living stuff in this world is here.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's life and it's love that keep it going.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And towards the end of the book, when you talk about the sixth secret,

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: which is spending your energy,

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm recalling the name of the...

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Juice.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Spend your energy wildly.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Juice.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So what does that actually mean, the word wildly there?

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, like with me taking a plant to that.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what sense does that make?

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: When I took my plant to that little plant to James,

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_02]: it made no sense at all.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_02]: How is this man who knows nothing from anything going to...

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a juicy, stupid thing to do.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But look what it did.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And why did you get the inclination to do it?

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I had the juice to do it and I did it.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, in other words, I thought about it

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and I thought, yeah, James might like that.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It was just a passing thought.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I did it.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It was that kind of thing that I mean wildly.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: What kind of a wild thought is that?

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: You take a little green plant to James.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so...

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_02]: But it doesn't just end up so.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Because the plant was a living thing.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_02]: James was a living thing.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_02]: The refrigeration was energy that was a living process.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: In other words,

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_02]: he connected his living process

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_02]: with the living process of the plant

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_02]: enough to love the plant,

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_02]: enough to create this story.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what stories are all about.

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Telling each other and allowing each other

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: to understand what life is about.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: What strikes me too is that,

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: okay, you could visit your friend, Jim,

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: because on the one hand,

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe there's a sense of obligation.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's in this facility

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: and you want to stop by,

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_00]: check in on him and see...

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But you infused more into this visit.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You kind of, like you said,

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: you kind of almost created a story out of it.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you did this ridiculous thing.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's what stands out

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and creates a story that we could tell today,

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: many years later.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_02]: If you can put some life into actions

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_02]: that you're taking and doing,

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_02]: then you're spending your juice wildly.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Who cares?

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when you throw the whole idea

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_02]: into the air,

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_02]: well, who cares that you took a little plant to James?

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody cared.

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody else cared.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_02]: James and I are the only two that did.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And so what?

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You know?

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I cared and he cared,

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_02]: so we connected and the plant was there.

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: A living process.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's that ability to accept life

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_02]: at its own terms.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, having dementia is not a pretty thing.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So this wonderful man

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_02]: had shifted into dementia.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: dementia.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: But he was still the same man

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_02]: who I knew

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and who, as a family,

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_02]: we cared about.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_02]: He used to spend a lot of time

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_02]: with our family,

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_02]: with our kids,

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and so on.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But then,

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_02]: he wasn't able to.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_02]: He had shifted into this

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_02]: phase of his life

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and he was still alive.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And as long as there was life there,

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I cared about him.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And how old was he

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: when he suffered from dementia

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: or when he started suffering from it?

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, probably in his 60s.

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_00]: When you were younger,

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: what did you think was old?

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: 20.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember saying to my cousin

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_02]: who had a brother

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_02]: who was 20 years old

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was 10,

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and I said to her,

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_02]: how does it feel

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: to have a brother

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: that's 20 years old?

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember that

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: because 20,

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_02]: oh my goodness,

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm 10.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_02]: How can he be 20?

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I was thinking this

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: when I was reading your story

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_00]: how you went to Afghanistan

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: when I think you were

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: 86 years old.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's almost

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_00]: 20 years ago now.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But 86

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_00]: is also old.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And yet,

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: you had confidence

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: to kind of

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: take these adventures.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_00]: you were always open

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_00]: to adventure.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You said yes

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: to adventure a lot.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, my parents did.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: They went to India

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_02]: in the middle

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_02]: of World War I

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: to take their message

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_02]: of love

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to Indian people

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_02]: in the jungles.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay?

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You started,

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was,

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_02]: my mother went into labor

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_02]: with me

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_02]: at the Taj Mahal.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You start your journey

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_02]: with parents like that.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not an empty journey.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody's life

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: is an empty journey.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: But what if you don't start

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: with parents like that?

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like,

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: that sounds amazing.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: type what you've got.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you have?

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: you have,

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe it's an empty plant,

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: something

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: that's like that

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: empty plant.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Who cares?

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's something

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that's alive.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's a dog

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: that you have

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_02]: in your life

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_02]: that's alive.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's a tree.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you have a tree

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that's a friend.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you have

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_02]: a friend

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_02]: that you don't like

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_02]: very much,

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_02]: but he's your friend

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and you play with him

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_02]: or you,

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever is going on

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_02]: in your life.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: It's that fact

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_02]: that life creates life

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and love creates life

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and love and life

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_02]: go together

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_02]: like a pregnancy.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: A pregnancy

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: is a manifestation

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_02]: of a life force

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_02]: within the mother

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_02]: and the baby

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_02]: that are one

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_02]: for nine months

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_02]: or however,

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and then they become two.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_02]: the life,

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_02]: the love of the mother

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: creates the life

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: of the baby,

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: the life of the baby

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_02]: takes its first breath.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: When it,

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_02]: when the life

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: of the baby

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: takes its first breath,

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_02]: that baby becomes

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_02]: a different soul,

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_02]: different person.

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But until at that time,

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_02]: it's one with the mother.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's that kind

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_02]: of a amazing

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_02]: universe

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that we live in.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: it's true

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: the saying

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: that you're only

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_00]: as happy

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_00]: as your saddest child?

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_00]: As what?

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You're only,

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_00]: you can only be

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: as happy

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: as your saddest child.

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_02]: however you want

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_02]: to say that.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we each

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: have to find

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: our own way

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_02]: of saying that kind

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_02]: of thing

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_02]: that allows us

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_02]: to accept

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: what the status

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that we're in.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever it is,

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_02]: then let's accept it

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: the way it is

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and see where

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_02]: we're going with that.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: See what's building,

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_02]: what's around us,

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_02]: what,

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_02]: what,

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_02]: what is there out there

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I can love?

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_02]: or in here

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: that I can love

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_02]: or what,

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_02]: what,

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_02]: what happened

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_02]: yesterday?

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_02]: That kind

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_02]: of a thing.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think,

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_00]: do you think as,

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_00]: like at what point,

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: through the past century

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_00]: did you,

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: did you,

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: or did you ever think,

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_00]: oh,

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to,

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to slow down now.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's too much.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to just

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: slow down.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I never had a chance.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I never thought

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: about slowing down.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It was something

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: because there,

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: there is always

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_02]: something interesting

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: popping up.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_00]: like going to Afghanistan

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_00]: in your 80s,

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: for instance.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I had this brother

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: who was,

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Carl Taylor,

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_02]: who starred

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Future Generations,

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_02]: which is still,

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_02]: by his son

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_02]: is carrying

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: on the work

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_02]: of Future Generations

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_02]: around the world,

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_02]: which has created

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_02]: communities

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_02]: around the world

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_02]: who are

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: doing the kind

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_02]: of thing

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_02]: that we did

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_02]: in Afghanistan

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_02]: with the women.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But you see,

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_02]: my parents

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_02]: started that.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_02]: They

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_02]: lived their life

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_02]: wildly

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and took a chance

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_02]: during World War II.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_02]: There were

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_02]: U-boats

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_02]: in the water

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_02]: when they

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_02]: went to India.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But they went

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_02]: because they

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_02]: had a vision,

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_02]: they had

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_02]: a thought,

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_02]: they had

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_02]: something

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_02]: that was

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_02]: offered to them

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_02]: as the possibility

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_02]: for their life

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_02]: and it excited

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_02]: them,

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_02]: it gave them

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: juice

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and they went

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_02]: to India.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_02]: my mother

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_02]: went into labor

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_02]: with me

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_02]: at the Taj Mahal.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_02]: She almost died.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I almost died.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I had

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_02]: a hepatitis,

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_02]: malarial

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_02]: hepatitis

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_02]: when I was

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_02]: two.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I almost died.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't die.

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I looked through

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_02]: that and

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: so on

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and so on

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and so on.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_02]: amazing

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_02]: process

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_02]: love

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and life

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_02]: create

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_02]: keep love

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_02]: going

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and life

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_02]: going.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_02]: how

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: you and I

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_02]: connected.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: to you,

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: your name

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_02]: is James,

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm connecting

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_02]: you with my

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_02]: friend James

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: who

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_02]: the story

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_02]: of James

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and the

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_02]: little plant

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_02]: is now a

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: story

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: that can be,

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean this is the way

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_02]: love and life

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_02]: goes.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And,

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_00]: you mentioned

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: earlier

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_00]: people trying

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_00]: to find

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_00]: their true

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: humanity.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_00]: it's different

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_00]: now than

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: it was,

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: let's say,

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: 30,

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: 40,

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: 60 years

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: ago that

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_00]: people get

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_00]: lost in

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: the roles

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: they play

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_00]: in society

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_00]: so that

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: it's harder

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: for them

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: to find

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_00]: their true

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_00]: humanity?

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: it's different

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: now than

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: it used

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: to be?

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I think

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_02]: it's different

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_02]: because life

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_02]: is different

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and life

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_02]: changes,

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_02]: but that

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_02]: doesn't make

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_02]: it any

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_02]: harder or

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_02]: any easier.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It is

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_02]: what it is

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: as hard

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: as it's

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: going to

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_02]: get.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_02]: as long

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_02]: as we

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_02]: take the

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_02]: next steps

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_02]: as hard

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_02]: as they

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_02]: are

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_02]: to move

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_02]: to the

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_02]: next step

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: which makes

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_02]: it as hard

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_02]: as they

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_02]: are,

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_02]: which takes

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_02]: the next

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: step a

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: little easier,

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_02]: then you,

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it's

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_02]: being willing

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_02]: to step

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_02]: forward

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_02]: and take

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_02]: in the

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: faith that

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: life and

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_02]: love in

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_02]: your life,

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_02]: in our

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_02]: life,

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: in my

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: life,

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_02]: life and

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_02]: love are

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_02]: the two

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_02]: activating

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_02]: factors that

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_02]: keep me

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_02]: moving

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and keep

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_02]: us moving,

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_02]: keep the

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_02]: world moving,

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_02]: keep little

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: plants moving.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And so

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: let's say

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_00]: someone is

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: asking you

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: like,

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_00]: well,

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_00]: busy all

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_00]: day,

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: things,

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_00]: this,

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_00]: that,

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_00]: the other

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_00]: thing,

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and I

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: want to

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_00]: find my

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_00]: true humanity.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like,

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_00]: what's the

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_00]: advice you

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_00]: give?

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Start looking

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_02]: for it.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_02]: not looking

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_02]: for it,

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_02]: you're not

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_02]: going to

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_02]: see it.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_02]: looking for

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_02]: it,

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_02]: you'll find

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_02]: it.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And no

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: one else

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: can tell

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_02]: you.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_02]: you're in

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_02]: charge of

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_02]: your life.

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_02]: See,

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I have

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_02]: this idea.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_02]: a theology.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_02]: This is

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_02]: an idea.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I have

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_02]: the idea

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_02]: that when

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_02]: God,

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever God

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_02]: is to

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_02]: each one

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_02]: of us,

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_02]: when God

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_02]: created the

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_02]: earth and

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_02]: the universe,

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and he

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_02]: looked at

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_02]: it,

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and he,

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_02]: she,

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and said,

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_02]: oh,

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_02]: this is

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_02]: gorgeous.

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_02]: This is

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_02]: just perfect.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything's

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_02]: right.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Here.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So now,

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_02]: to create

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_02]: the human

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_02]: being.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And in

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_02]: creating the

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: human being,

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_02]: he said to

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_02]: the human,

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_02]: now,

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: everything is

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_02]: perfect.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything in

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: the universe

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: is perfect.

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_02]: In the right

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_02]: place,

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_02]: doing the

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_02]: right thing,

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_02]: it's

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_02]: perfect.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I now

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: create you

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_02]: as the

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: only being

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_02]: on this

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_02]: earth

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_02]: which has

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_02]: free

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_02]: choice

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and free

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_02]: will.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So I

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_02]: now give

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: you dominion

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_02]: over the

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_02]: earth.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And we,

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: in our

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: arrogance,

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_02]: thought he

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: said

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: domination.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_02]: nation.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And so we

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_02]: said,

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_02]: oh boy,

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_02]: oh boy,

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_02]: we got it,

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_02]: you know.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And we've

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_02]: been going

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_02]: at it.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And we've

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_02]: been really

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_02]: not nice

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: to mother

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: earth.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: about time,

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I think,

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_02]: that we

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_02]: reclaimed

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_02]: our

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_02]: position

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: as being

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: in,

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_02]: not in

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_02]: dominance

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_02]: of the

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_02]: earth,

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_02]: but in

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_02]: dominion,

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_02]: that we

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: have the

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_02]: opportunity

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_02]: to help

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: mother

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_02]: earth.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And I

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_02]: think that's

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_02]: what we're

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_02]: doing when

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_02]: we start

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_02]: reaching for

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_02]: our true

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_02]: humanity.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_02]: think our

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_02]: true humanity

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: is like

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_02]: James reaching

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_02]: for that

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_02]: plant,

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_02]: that ability

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_02]: to see

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_02]: in the

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_02]: humblest

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: of things,

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_02]: in the

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_02]: most difficult

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_02]: of circumstances,

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_02]: something

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_02]: that gives

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_02]: us life.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You have

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_00]: this discussion

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: in the book,

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: it's a discussion

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that you have

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: with Bill

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: about,

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: you were

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: saying,

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_00]: everything's

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: wonderful.

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And he

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: basically said,

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: come on,

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: everything's

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_00]: not wonderful.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Why are

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_00]: you always

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_00]: saying that?

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And,

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_00]: there's this

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: concept of,

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: as you put it,

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: toxic positivity

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_00]: that maybe

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_00]: being too

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_00]: positive

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: puts blinders

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: on.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_00]: a response

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: to that?

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_02]: The

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Pollyannus

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: idea.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I still

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_00]: like that

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: better than

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: not.

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: because there's

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_00]: no benefit

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_00]: to pessimism,

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: but let's

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: say someone,

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: hypothetically,

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_00]: let's say

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_00]: someone's

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: going broke

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and they're

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_00]: scared.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: know how

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: to deal

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_00]: with their

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_00]: fear or

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_00]: let's say

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_00]: their health

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_00]: is going

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and they're

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: just afraid

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: or let's

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_00]: say a

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_00]: relationship

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: has fallen

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: apart

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and they're

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_00]: scared it

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_00]: will fall

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: apart.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: it's hard

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_00]: to be

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_00]: optimistic

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_00]: in reality.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Is there

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: any one

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: of us

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_02]: who hasn't

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_02]: been in

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: that place?

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Have

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_02]: any one

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_02]: of us

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_02]: not had

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_02]: a spot

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_02]: in our

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: lives

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: when we've

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_02]: thought

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_02]: nothing is

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_02]: worth it

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_02]: or what

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_02]: in the

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_02]: world am

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I doing

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: here?

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_02]: this kind

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_02]: of thoughts

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_02]: come to

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_02]: us and

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_02]: we get

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_02]: into

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_02]: positions

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_02]: where

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_02]: we're

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_02]: stuck.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_02]: all of

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_02]: us have

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_02]: had that

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_02]: think

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_02]: anybody

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_02]: has had

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_02]: an easy

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_02]: life.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_02]: There are

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_02]: always

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_02]: times

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_02]: which

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_02]: some

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_02]: of us

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02]: which all

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: of us

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: have

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: which we

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: because we're

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: human beings

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and we're

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_02]: living this

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_02]: life and

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_02]: we're choosing

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_02]: to look

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_02]: for what

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_02]: we're looking

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_02]: for and

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_02]: if it's

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_02]: pain and

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_02]: suffering

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and we're

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_02]: stuck with

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_02]: pain and

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_02]: suffering,

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_02]: we have

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_02]: a choice

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_02]: whether it's

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_02]: going to

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_02]: be like

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I finally

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: found off

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and I

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_02]: had to

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_02]: stop my

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_02]: car and

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_02]: stop my

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_02]: screaming

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and look

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_02]: at it and

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_02]: say am I

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_02]: going to

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_02]: spend the

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_02]: rest of

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_02]: my life

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like this?

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_02]: it was a

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_02]: nasty scene.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So when

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_02]: we catch

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_02]: ourselves at

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_02]: that point

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and look

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: at ourselves,

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: we have a

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_02]: choice to

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_02]: make and

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_02]: it's our

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_02]: choice.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But we

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: have to

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: be able

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_02]: to look

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_02]: for something

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_02]: else because

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_02]: if we're not

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_02]: looking for

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_02]: it, we'll

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_02]: never see

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_02]: it.

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_00]: that's true.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: sometimes you

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_00]: can be so

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: swept up in

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_00]: your own

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_00]: issues,

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_00]: it's hard to

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: go looking

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: for something

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: else.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like sometimes

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: really know what

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_00]: that means.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Like of

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: course I

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: could look

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: for something

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: else, but

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I've got to

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: deal with

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: this issue

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_00]: first.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_02]: know, sometimes

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_02]: if you just

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_02]: begin to ask

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_02]: the questions,

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_02]: the answers

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_02]: will come.

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But if

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_02]: you're not

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_02]: asking that

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_02]: question, if

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_02]: you're just

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_02]: thinking, well

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_02]: this is where

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_02]: life is and

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm stuck

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: here and

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_02]: to continue

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_02]: like this,

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_02]: life sucks

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_02]: or whatever,

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_02]: you go on

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and on and

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_02]: you're

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_02]: continuing

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_02]: suffering.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_02]: having a bag

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_02]: over your

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_02]: shoulder and

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_02]: you keep

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_02]: looking back

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_02]: at that bag

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_02]: of stuff that

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_02]: you carry

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_02]: a nasty

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_02]: thing and

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_02]: finally you

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_02]: get to the

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_02]: point where

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_02]: you can't

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_02]: turn your

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: neck back

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: again because

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_02]: you've got a

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_02]: stiff neck.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's been

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_02]: looking that

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_02]: way all the

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_02]: time.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_02]: if you

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_02]: begin to

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_02]: turn your

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_02]: neck back,

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_02]: milk,

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Erickson,

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_02]: he began

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_02]: after his

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_02]: polio and

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_02]: all the

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_02]: other stuff

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: that went

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: wrong in

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: his life,

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_02]: he began

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_02]: turning his

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_02]: neck back

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and he

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_02]: thought,

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_02]: there are

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_02]: other ways

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_02]: of looking

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_02]: at things.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_02]: There are

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_02]: other things.

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_02]: have to keep

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_02]: looking at

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that trash

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_02]: or whatever.

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_00]: so powerful

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: for him

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: that it

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: really changed

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: his life.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder how

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: though you

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: generate that

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: power.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_00]: that force

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_00]: of will.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It did

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_00]: it for me.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It's by

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_02]: choice.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It's by

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_02]: choosing.

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I had to

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_02]: stay in my

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_02]: car screaming

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_02]: at the

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_02]: universe

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_02]: about how

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_02]: life was

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_02]: so awful

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_02]: or

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: turn around

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and try

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: to find

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_02]: the stuff

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_02]: that I

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: could be

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: glad about.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_00]: so you

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_00]: went home

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_00]: that day

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: and you

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_00]: go into

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_00]: your house

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and like

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_00]: you said

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_00]: it was

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_00]: empty

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_00]: still

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Bill wasn't

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_00]: there.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Still there's

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_00]: the reality

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_00]: that your

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_00]: life had

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00]: changed.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_00]: knocking on

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_00]: your door.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That bag

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: is still

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_00]: there.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's still

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: there.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_00]: just trying to

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_00]: understand what

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: you went

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: through that

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_00]: moment.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_02]: the only

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_02]: person there

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_02]: was the

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_02]: dog.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So I

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_02]: talked to

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_02]: the dog

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and we

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: had our

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_02]: conversation

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and I

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_02]: said,

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_02]: well,

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I've got

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: to get

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_02]: a license

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: plate

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_02]: different from

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_02]: this.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So I

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_02]: don't

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_02]: remember

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_02]: what my

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_02]: license

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_02]: plate said

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_02]: but I

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_02]: took it

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_02]: off

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and then

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_02]: wrote

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_02]: application

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_02]: for a

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_02]: new

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_02]: license

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and I

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_02]: got a

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_02]: new

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_02]: license

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_02]: plate

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_02]: said

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_02]: be

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_02]: glad.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But I

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_02]: started

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_02]: process

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_02]: getting

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_02]: a

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_02]: new

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_02]: license.

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And so

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_00]: you

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_00]: took

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_00]: action

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_00]: basically.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh,

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_00]: What I'm

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_00]: wondering is

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_00]: it's probably

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_00]: hard to

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_00]: think your

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_00]: way out

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: of bad

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: thoughts

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_00]: but maybe

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_00]: taking action

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_00]: cemented

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_00]: the newer

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_00]: thoughts.

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_02]: is the

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_02]: trick to

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_02]: it.

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: That's

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: key

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: because

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_02]: life

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_02]: love

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_02]: have

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_02]: move.

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_02]: If

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: they're

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: stuck

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: they

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_02]: can't

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_02]: move.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_02]: You

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_02]: know,

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: it's

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_02]: process

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_02]: life

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_02]: activating

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_02]: love.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Love

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_02]: activating

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_02]: life,

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_02]: because

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_02]: life is

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_02]: like a

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_02]: seed

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_02]: in the

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_02]: pyramid.

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_02]: there,

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: the shells

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: around it,

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_02]: it can't

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_02]: do

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_02]: anything

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_02]: until

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_02]: love

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_02]: in the

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_02]: form

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_02]: water

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: air

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: enters

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_02]: softens

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: shell

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: shell

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: can

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_02]: pop

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_02]: open

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_02]: life

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_02]: can

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_02]: move.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It's

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_02]: a

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_02]: woman

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_02]: being

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_02]: pregnant.

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_02]: The

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: process

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_02]: of having

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_02]: a birth,

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_02]: a healthy

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_02]: birth,

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_02]: or a

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_02]: viable

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_02]: birth,

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_02]: is

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_02]: allowing

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_02]: baby

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_02]: in its

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_02]: own

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_02]: time

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_02]: come

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_02]: take

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_02]: its

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_02]: own

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_02]: first

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_02]: breath.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_02]: first

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_02]: breath

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_02]: then

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_02]: allows

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_02]: it

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_02]: become

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_02]: itself.

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You name

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_02]: it.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_02]: That's

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_02]: the point

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_02]: of naming

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: baby.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So do

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: you think

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: like every

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_00]: moment,

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_00]: every day,

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_00]: you're

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_00]: essentially,

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_00]: as you

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: say,

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: combining

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: life and

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_00]: love and

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_00]: giving

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_00]: birth in

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_00]: a sense

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: to the

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: new

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: day?

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Every time,

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_02]: every thought

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_02]: that you

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_02]: think and

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I think

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_02]: is giving

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_02]: us a

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_02]: chance to

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_02]: express some

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: thoughts

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that are

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_02]: going on

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_02]: in our

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_02]: heads that

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: we can

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: share with

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_02]: each other

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and with

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_02]: ourselves.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_02]: if you

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_02]: don't ask

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: a question

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and I

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_02]: don't think

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_02]: about it,

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_02]: it never

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_02]: gets answered.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And so

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: like sometimes

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_00]: this is going

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_00]: to sound

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_00]: ridiculous,

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_00]: but sometimes

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_00]: particularly

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: lately,

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_00]: old.

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_00]: So you

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: are.

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_00]: if 20

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_00]: is old,

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_00]: you're

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_00]: old.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_00]: my 50s.

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_00]: you're

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_00]: young.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I know

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_00]: it sounds

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_00]: ridiculous,

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_00]: me saying

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_00]: this to

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_00]: you,

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_00]: but I

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_00]: think,

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_00]: oh,

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_00]: this must

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_00]: mean my

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_00]: memory is

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_00]: worse or

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe this

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_00]: means I

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_00]: don't have

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_00]: as much

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_00]: energy because

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_00]: things do

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_00]: change physically

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and mentally.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah,

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_00]: but what are

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_02]: you looking

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_02]: for?

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_00]: want to be

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_00]: mentally as

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_00]: sharp as I

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_00]: was when I

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_00]: was younger,

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_00]: when I was

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_00]: 20.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Look for

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_02]: it.

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And why

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_02]: are you asking

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_02]: these questions?

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_02]: things?

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a good

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_00]: question.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess because

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping you

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_00]: know the

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_00]: answer.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_00]: you'll convince

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_00]: me not to be

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_00]: thinking about

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_00]: this,

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that it's

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_00]: pointless to

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_00]: think about

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_00]: this.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_02]: do you think

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_02]: it's pointless?

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_00]: know.

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_02]: right.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You did it.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_02]: you don't

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_02]: know,

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_02]: so you

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_02]: gotta find

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: out.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and I

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_00]: guess I

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_00]: don't know

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_00]: how to

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_00]: find that

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_00]: out.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: know where

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: to look.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You're

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_02]: looking.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_00]: that's true,

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_02]: See,

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_02]: now,

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_02]: if you

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: hadn't asked

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_02]: those

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_02]: questions of

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_02]: yourself,

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_02]: where would

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_02]: the questions

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_02]: be?

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_02]: what good

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_02]: were they?

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_02]: rumble on,

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_02]: but you

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_02]: asked those

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_02]: questions,

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and so,

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_02]: so,

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_02]: so what?

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_02]: you'll find

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_02]: the answers,

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Right,

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll find

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_00]: some answer.

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And so,

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_00]: it reminds me

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_00]: of one

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_00]: time I

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_00]: had this

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_00]: friend who,

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and I've

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_00]: had a couple

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_00]: of friends

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_00]: in this

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_00]: exact same

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_00]: situation.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_00]: They start

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_00]: a company,

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_00]: they work

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_00]: really,

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_00]: really hard,

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_00]: they're

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_00]: stressed,

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_00]: and anxious,

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_00]: and scared,

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and finally,

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_00]: they get to

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_00]: the other

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_00]: side,

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_00]: they sell

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_00]: the company,

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_00]: they feel

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_00]: they've met

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: all of their

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: goals,

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and so the

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_00]: stress,

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_00]: like,

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_00]: sheds off

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_00]: them,

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and then a

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_00]: week later,

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and this

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_00]: happened to

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_00]: several friends,

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: not just one,

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_00]: they have a

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_00]: heart attack.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like,

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_00]: it's almost

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_00]: as if

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_00]: they're not

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_00]: moving forward

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_00]: anymore,

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_00]: even though

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_00]: the way they

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_00]: were moving

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_00]: forward

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_00]: previously was

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_00]: in this

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_00]: negative way,

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_00]: like stressful

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_00]: and anxious,

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and fearful,

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_00]: once they

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_00]: stopped moving,

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_00]: they had a

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_00]: problem.

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Even though

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_00]: they were

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_00]: moving in

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_00]: this negative

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_00]: way,

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe,

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_00]: like maybe

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_00]: it would

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_00]: have been

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_00]: better if

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_00]: they hadn't

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_00]: been so

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: stressed.

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It was as if

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_00]: they were

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_00]: postponing

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_00]: this heart

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_00]: attack just

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_00]: by moving

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and pushing.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_00]: or creating

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_00]: it.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe the

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_00]: stress was

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_00]: creating it.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_02]: if they had

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_02]: been living

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_02]: that and

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_02]: thinking,

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_02]: oh,

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe this

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_02]: is too

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_02]: hard,

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_02]: or maybe

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I need

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_02]: to change,

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_02]: or,

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_02]: if they were

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: questioning

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_02]: what it was

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: that they

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: were doing,

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: they may

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_02]: drop some

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_02]: of the

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_02]: stuff that

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_02]: they were

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_02]: doing that

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: was not

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_02]: that important

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_02]: because when

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_02]: they died,

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_02]: they had to

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_02]: drop it.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And I

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_00]: guess what

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_00]: you're saying

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_00]: is also

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_00]: no change

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_00]: is too

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_00]: little.

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So,

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_00]: for instance,

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_00]: you couldn't

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_00]: change the

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_00]: circumstances

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_00]: about Bill,

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_00]: or if you

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_00]: have a

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_00]: sibling die

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_00]: or your

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_00]: daughter who

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: passed away,

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: you couldn't

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_00]: change the

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_00]: circumstances,

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_00]: but you

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_00]: could do

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_00]: some change.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So,

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: like,

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: people always

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_00]: say the

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_00]: worst thing

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_00]: ever is to

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_00]: have a

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_00]: child pass

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_00]: away because

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_00]: that doesn't

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_00]: seem like the

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_00]: natural order

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_00]: of things,

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_00]: but,

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_00]: you've

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_00]: experienced so

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_00]: much and

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_00]: you've seen

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_00]: so much that

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_00]: you've

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_00]: unfortunately

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_00]: gone through

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_00]: this experience.

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And at

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that time,

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_02]: it was the

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_02]: worst thing

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_02]: that could

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: have happened

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: to me.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And,

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_00]: like,

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_00]: with that,

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_00]: how did

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_00]: you,

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_00]: how did

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_00]: you make

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_00]: the decision

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_00]: for yourself

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_00]: even,

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_00]: that,

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_00]: okay,

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_00]: to move

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_00]: forward?

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And what

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_00]: was the

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_00]: motion you

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_00]: took?

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I had other

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: things to do.

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I had other

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: children to

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_02]: love.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_02]: She had a

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_02]: son.

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I had a

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_02]: son that I

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_02]: could love.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_02]: if I had

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_02]: identified the

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_02]: things that I

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_02]: still had to

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_02]: live for,

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I would

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_02]: have,

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess,

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I consciously

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_02]: didn't,

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_02]: but I knew

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_02]: that I could

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: not let

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_02]: myself die

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_02]: because there

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_02]: were too

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_02]: many things

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_02]: that I

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_02]: loved that

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I had to

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_02]: live for.

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So it

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_02]: was not,

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: she was

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_02]: such an

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_02]: important part

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_02]: of my life

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_02]: at that

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_02]: time.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Analia was

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_02]: just,

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_02]: she was the

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of person,

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_02]: when she walked

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_02]: in the door,

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_02]: everybody knew

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_02]: who she was.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_02]: She was that

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of a

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_02]: force.

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_02]: force.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And so to

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: let her

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_02]: go was

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_02]: a really,

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_02]: really painful,

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_02]: hard thing

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_02]: to do.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But,

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I had other

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: things to do

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_02]: too.

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And I had

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_02]: other children

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: to love.

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And I had

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_02]: other ways

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_02]: to create

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and carry

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: on the

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_02]: essence of

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_02]: who and

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_02]: what she

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_02]: was.

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Because

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll never,

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_02]: ever forget

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_02]: who she

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_02]: was and

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_02]: how she

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_02]: affected me

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_02]: in my life

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_02]: and the

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_02]: stories I

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_02]: have to

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: tell about

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: her and

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_02]: all of

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_02]: this.

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_02]: still part

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_02]: of my

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_02]: memory lane

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_02]: of the

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_02]: things that

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I choose

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_02]: to remember

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and keep

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: her alive.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Because she's

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_02]: still alive

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_02]: in my life.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: She's right

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_02]: up there,

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_02]: her picture's

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: right up

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: there above

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: this computer.

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_02]: computer.

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_00]: do you

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_00]: ever,

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_00]: do you

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_00]: ever,

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_00]: you've had

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_00]: so many of

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_00]: these experiences,

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_00]: so many

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_00]: different periods

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_00]: in your

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_00]: life,

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_00]: do you

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_00]: ever lose

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_00]: some of the

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_00]: memories?

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like,

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_00]: do you ever,

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_00]: do things

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_00]: slip away?

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_00]: All the

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_00]: time.

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_02]: begin to,

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: well,

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: no,

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: no,

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: no,

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: going to

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: can't pull

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: out and

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: look at

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_02]: right now

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: because I've

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: got other

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_02]: things that

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm working

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: on.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: have to deal

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_02]: with what's

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_02]: there.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_02]: The little

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_02]: plants that's

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_02]: there,

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I have to

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_02]: take care of.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So you're

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_00]: saying sometimes

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_00]: it's okay

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_00]: that some

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_00]: memory,

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_00]: like,

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_00]: what matters

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_00]: the most is

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_00]: what you're

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_00]: dealing with

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_00]: right now.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_02]: like,

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_02]: take Milton

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Erickson,

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_02]: he couldn't

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_02]: continue to

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_02]: bemoan the

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_02]: fact that he

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_02]: couldn't do

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_02]: the thing that

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_02]: he could do

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_02]: before.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_02]: He had to

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_02]: find something

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_02]: that he

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_02]: could do

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_02]: that would

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_02]: take his

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_02]: mind to a

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_02]: place where

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_02]: he could

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_02]: work with

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_02]: something

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_02]: that stretched

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_02]: his mind.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It was

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: that,

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: it's that

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_02]: life and

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_02]: love need

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_02]: to be pulled,

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_02]: need to be

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_02]: worked towards,

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_02]: need to be

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_02]: activated.

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's why

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_02]: you're doing

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_02]: what you're

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_02]: doing.

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I do,

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I do enjoy

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_00]: this and feel

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_00]: that it

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_00]: helps to

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_00]: spread a

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_00]: good message.

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_00]: So I like

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_00]: doing this

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_00]: show for

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_00]: that reason.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah,

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_02]: well,

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I like to

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_02]: talk about

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_02]: my five L's,

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_02]: the first

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_02]: two are

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_02]: life and

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_02]: love.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_02]: They don't

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_02]: exist without

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_02]: the other.

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Third one

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_02]: is laughter.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Laughter

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_02]: without love

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_02]: is cruel,

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_02]: it's painful,

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: breaks families

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_02]: apart,

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_02]: it causes

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_02]: wars,

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_02]: but laughter

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_02]: with love

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_02]: is happiness

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and joy.

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It's why

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_02]: you're doing

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_02]: what you're

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_02]: doing.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_02]: the fourth

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_02]: one is

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_02]: drudgery.

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_02]: doing it,

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_02]: if you're

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_02]: just doing

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_02]: the stuff

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: that you're

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: doing without

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_02]: love,

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_02]: you drag

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_02]: yourself through

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_02]: it,

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_02]: what you were

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_02]: talking about

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_02]: earlier,

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_02]: people who

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_02]: die because

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_02]: they do

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_02]: the things

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that are

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_02]: just,

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_02]: in essence,

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_02]: killing them.

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_02]: They drag

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_02]: themselves through

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_02]: it,

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_02]: but they do

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_02]: it because

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_02]: they do it

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and they

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_02]: die.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_02]: All right,

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_02]: well,

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_02]: if you put

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_02]: love into

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_02]: the picture,

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_02]: you do what

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: you're doing

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_02]: now,

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_02]: which is

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: your bliss.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It's what

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_02]: makes you

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_02]: sing.

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It makes

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: you want

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: to sing

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and be,

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and the,

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and the,

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_02]: so the

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_02]: drudgery

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_02]: then becomes

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: not drudgery.

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_02]: It becomes

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: what you,

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: actually,

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_02]: the juice

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_02]: that keeps

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: you going.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And the

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_02]: fifth one

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_02]: is listening.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Listening

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_02]: without love

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_02]: is empty

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_02]: sound.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a clanging

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_02]: gong.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_02]: It's an

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_02]: empty

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_02]: cymbal.

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It's that

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_02]: sound that

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_02]: just doesn't

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_02]: mean anything.

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_02]: But listening

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_02]: with love

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_02]: is understanding.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_02]: So if we

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_02]: can put love

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_02]: into the

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_02]: actions

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_02]: that we

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_02]: take

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_02]: each day

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_02]: activate

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_02]: aspect

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_02]: ourselves

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_02]: with

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_02]: love,

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_02]: it

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_02]: transforms

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_02]: it.

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know,

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_00]: it reminds

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_00]: me of

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_00]: like

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Viktor Frankl's

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_00]: book,

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Man's Search

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_00]: for Meaning,

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_00]: where he's

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_00]: at Auschwitz,

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_00]: so you would

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_00]: think,

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_00]: well,

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_00]: how can he

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_00]: be positive

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_00]: at all

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_00]: there?

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like,

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_00]: that's the

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_00]: most,

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_00]: on a scale

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_00]: of zero

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_00]: to ten,

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_00]: it's like

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_00]: the negative

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_00]: one in terms

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_00]: of the worst.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And yet

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_00]: he would

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_00]: find,

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_00]: meaning

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_00]: in being

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_00]: there,

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_00]: what kept

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_00]: him going.

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Right,

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_02]: right.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_02]: basic truth

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_02]: that life

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and love

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_02]: activate

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_02]: each other.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_02]: an ongoing

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_02]: process,

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and we all

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_02]: have access

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_02]: to it,

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_02]: we just

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_02]: have to

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_02]: choose.

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_00]: think you

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_00]: knew this

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_00]: all along?

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_00]: In part

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_00]: because it

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_00]: sounds like

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_00]: this is how

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_00]: your parents

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_00]: lived also,

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_00]: or do you

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_00]: think this

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_00]: is something

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_00]: you kind

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_00]: of learned

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_00]: through time?

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I think

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I knew it

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_02]: all along,

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_02]: but it

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_02]: had to

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_02]: grow in

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_02]: me.

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_02]: it wasn't

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_02]: something that

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I knew

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_02]: in its

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_02]: fullness

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_02]: any more

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_02]: than I

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_02]: know

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_02]: everything

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_02]: in its

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_02]: fullness

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_02]: right now.

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_02]: growing process.

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I love

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_02]: what I'm

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_02]: doing now,

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_02]: okay?

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I love

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_02]: what I'm

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_02]: able to

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_02]: work with

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_02]: you and

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: talk to

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: you.

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_02]: this is

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_02]: really nice.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And so as

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_02]: long as I'm

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_02]: doing the

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_02]: things that

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_02]: make me

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_02]: understand

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_02]: reality

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_02]: of what

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_02]: listening

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_02]: to,

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and put

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_02]: things into

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_02]: context with

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: my five

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_02]: L's,

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_02]: that works

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_02]: really nice.

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and I

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_00]: like the

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_00]: idea of

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_00]: thinking about

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_00]: laughter in

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_00]: the context

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_00]: of love,

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_00]: because you're

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_00]: right,

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_00]: it makes

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_00]: a difference

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_00]: whether there's

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_00]: love or not

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_00]: there.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah,

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah.

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And let me

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: ask you,

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: why did,

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: why do you

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_00]: mention in the

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_00]: acknowledgements

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Edgar Cayce?

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_00]: How did he

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_00]: affect your

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_00]: life?

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_02]: We were,

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_02]: when we came

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_02]: to Phoenix,

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_02]: we had left

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Wellsville,

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_02]: this town

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_02]: where we'd

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_02]: been practicing.

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It almost

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_02]: killed me.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I had worked

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_02]: so hard,

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_02]: been so sick

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and all of

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_02]: that.

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's,

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_02]: we lived

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: for nine

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: years and

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_02]: we came

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_02]: here and

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_02]: we found

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Edgar Cayce.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_02]: We found

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_02]: the philosophy

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_02]: that allowed

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_02]: us to

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_02]: to have

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_02]: something else

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_02]: to look

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_02]: for in

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_02]: the way

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_02]: we were

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_02]: working our

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_02]: lives.

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Something else

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_02]: to reach

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_02]: for is what

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_02]: to say.

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And as we

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_02]: began to

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_02]: understand what

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Cayce was

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_02]: talking about,

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: you know,

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: pay attention

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: to your

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_02]: dreams.

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Pay attention

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_02]: to what you

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_02]: think you

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_02]: think.

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Pay attention

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_02]: to who you

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_02]: really are.

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And other

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_02]: statements that

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: made us

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_02]: realize that

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_02]: there was

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_02]: more to

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_02]: life than

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_02]: what we

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_02]: had been

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_02]: looking for.

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And we

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_02]: began searching.

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And when you

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_02]: begin searching,

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_02]: let me tell

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_02]: you,

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_02]: that you

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_02]: start to

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_02]: show up.

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_00]: that.

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I think

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_00]: sometimes I

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_00]: get bogged

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_00]: down in the

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_00]: minutiae of

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_00]: life,

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_00]: like,

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_00]: okay,

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_00]: you have

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_00]: to go

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_00]: on these

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_00]: trips,

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_00]: you have

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_00]: to pay

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_00]: these

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_00]: taxes,

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_00]: you have

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_00]: to do

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_00]: this,

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_00]: you have

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_00]: to do

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_00]: that.

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It's easy

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_00]: to get

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_00]: off the

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_00]: spiritual

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_00]: quest.

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But I

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_00]: do think

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_00]: the best

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_00]: moments of

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_00]: my life

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_00]: were when

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I was

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_00]: on those

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_00]: quests.

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and when

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_02]: you were

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_02]: paying

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_02]: attention

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_02]: your

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_02]: dreams

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_02]: things

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_02]: were

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_02]: showing

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_02]: up

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_02]: in

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_02]: your

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_02]: life.

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You know

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_02]: what it

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_02]: is also

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_02]: it's

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_02]: recognizing

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_02]: what's

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_02]: showing up

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_02]: in your

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_02]: life.

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It's

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_02]: not just

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_02]: the stuff

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that shows

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_02]: up,

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_02]: but recognizing

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_02]: what really

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_02]: shows up

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_02]: in your

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_02]: life.

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You know

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_02]: what,

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_02]: you turn

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_02]: a corner

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and there

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_02]: it was.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Huh?

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_02]: we moved

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_02]: to Phoenix

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and there

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_02]: it was.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachel Carson

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_02]: had just

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_02]: written her

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_02]: book about

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Silent

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Spring

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_02]: talking

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_02]: about

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_02]: diet.

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_02]: we had

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_02]: lived

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_02]: all this

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_02]: time

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_02]: just

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_02]: taking

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_02]: care

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_02]: of life

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_02]: the way

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_02]: it was,

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_02]: not

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_02]: paying

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_02]: attention

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_02]: to the

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_02]: nuances

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_02]: of the

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_02]: diet

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_02]: that we

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_02]: were

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_02]: feeding

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_02]: ourselves

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and the

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_02]: kids.

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and so

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_00]: did you

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_00]: switch

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_00]: your

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_00]: diet?

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah.

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_02]: My

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_02]: daughter

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_02]: wrote a

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_02]: book called

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Born to

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Heal,

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and in it

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_02]: she talks

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_02]: about

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_02]: the time

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_02]: that I

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_02]: made

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_02]: a casserole

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_02]: out of

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_02]: brains

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_02]: for the

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_02]: kids

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_02]: because

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I was

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_02]: pregnant

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_02]: with

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Helene

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and my

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_02]: great

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachel Carson

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_02]: was talking

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_02]: about

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_02]: making

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_02]: usually

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_02]: pregnant

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_02]: women

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_02]: should

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_02]: eat

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_02]: brains,

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_02]: you know.

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And I

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_02]: thought,

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_02]: oh,

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_02]: well,

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_02]: okay.

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_00]: there's that

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_00]: saying,

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_00]: you are

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_00]: what you

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_00]: eat,

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_00]: so.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_02]: absolutely.

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But we

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_02]: hadn't

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_02]: thought about

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_02]: that.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_02]: See,

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_02]: that was a

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_02]: new thought

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_02]: to us

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_02]: when we

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_02]: came to

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Phoenix.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And with

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_02]: that came

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_02]: a whole

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_02]: bunch of

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_02]: new thoughts

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_02]: that Casey

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_02]: was talking

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_02]: about.

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Paying

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_02]: attention

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_02]: to your

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_02]: dreams,

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_02]: paying

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_02]: attention

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_02]: to who's

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_02]: in your

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_02]: life,

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_02]: paying

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_02]: attention

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_02]: to life.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe one

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_00]: thing,

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_00]: one gift

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_00]: age brings

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_00]: is

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_00]: that you

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_00]: have

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_00]: enough

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_00]: experience

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_00]: to be

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_00]: able to

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_00]: recognize,

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_00]: to be able

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_00]: to pay

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_00]: attention.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I was

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_00]: talking to

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_00]: someone earlier

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_00]: today who

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_00]: had to

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_00]: fire an

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_00]: employee,

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and he

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_00]: realized

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_00]: this,

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_00]: he was

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_00]: questioning his

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_00]: decision-making

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_00]: because just a

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_00]: few weeks

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_00]: earlier he had

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_00]: hired this

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_00]: employee,

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_00]: but then it

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_00]: turned out this

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_00]: employee was

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: very rude to

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: the other

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_00]: employees and

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_00]: didn't get

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_00]: along with

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_00]: people.

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And so he

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: was trying to

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: figure out what

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_00]: in his

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_00]: decision-making,

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: process was

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_00]: wrong.

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But he's

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_00]: much younger

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_00]: than me,

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and I

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: said,

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: look,

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_00]: it doesn't

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_00]: matter because

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_00]: now you

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_00]: know,

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and you

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: won't do it

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_00]: again.

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_00]: He just

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_00]: hadn't had the

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: experience of

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_00]: having hired

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_00]: someone like

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_00]: that before.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_00]: think one

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_00]: gift that

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_00]: getting a

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_00]: little older

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_00]: gives one is

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_00]: that you

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_00]: recognize many

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_00]: more things.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: you see many

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_00]: more things in

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: the daily

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: minutiae.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You've asked

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_02]: questions that

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_02]: have been

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_02]: answered.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And so

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_00]: now,

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: well look,

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: now what's

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_00]: your next big

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_00]: adventure?

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Well,

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll have

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: another

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: podcast to

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_02]: do

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: tomorrow.

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And you

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_02]: know,

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_02]: this is pretty

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_02]: interesting.

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean,

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: this is kind

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_00]: of a

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_00]: dumb

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: question,

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_00]: but what

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_00]: technology in

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: the past 100

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: years has

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_00]: impressed you

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the most?

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Life.

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's a

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: technology that

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: doesn't change.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Other technologies

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: change.

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Life.

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_00]: it's true.

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Life with

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: love.

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_02]: if anything

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: that is

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_02]: activated

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_02]: with love

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: impresses

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_02]: me,

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_02]: what I'm

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_02]: looking for,

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: that's why

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_02]: it impresses

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_02]: me.

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_02]: doing something

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_02]: the person

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that is

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_02]: reaching

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_02]: to me

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_02]: with

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_02]: even

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_02]: a

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_02]: minutiae

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_02]: of love

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_02]: with that

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_02]: aspect,

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: if I can

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: feel

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: that reach

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_02]: of,

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: now I'm

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: just making

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_02]: this up

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_02]: right now

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: because it's

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: coming to

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: me,

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: if I can

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: feel that

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: reach from

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_02]: that person

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: who is

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: looking for

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: something,

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: who is

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: reaching for

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that answer,

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: then I love

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: that,

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'll

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: jump towards

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: it,

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'll

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: go for it,

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_02]: because it's

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: something that

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: says,

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah,

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: that's right,

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: like the

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_02]: questions that

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: you're asking.

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and I have

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_00]: to say,

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I've thought

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: about a lot

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_00]: of things

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_00]: since we

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: did the

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: interview when

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: the hardcover

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: of your book

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: came out,

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and I

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_00]: would say

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I've had

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: an interesting

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_00]: year with

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_00]: some success

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_00]: and some

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: failures,

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: like most

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_00]: years ago,

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and I've

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: been trying

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: really hard

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: to keep

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: my perspective

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: positive,

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: negative,

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: but I

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: feel like

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_00]: in general

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: more negative

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: for some

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: reason,

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and there's

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_00]: no even

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_00]: real specific

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: reason,

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: like nothing

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: bad is

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: happening,

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: it's just

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I think

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I have a

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: little bit

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: more negative

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: self-talk

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: lately,

[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and I've

[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_00]: been really

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: trying to

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: reverse that.

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: there you

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_02]: go.

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_02]: you're working

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: with it.

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_02]: recognized it,

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: you've

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: identified it,

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and now

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_02]: you can do

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: something about

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: it,

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: you can

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: make your

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: choices.

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: that's the

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_00]: hard part,

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_00]: is really

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: believing that

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I can make

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: the choices.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like,

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I hear what

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_00]: you're saying,

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and I've

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_00]: even said the

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: same thing

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: that you're

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: saying,

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_00]: and somehow

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: it's just

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel less

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: powerful to

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: make those

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: choices for

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: some reason.

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_02]: But sometimes

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: when you hear

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_02]: yourself say

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: it,

[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_02]: you have to

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: stop and

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_02]: think about

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_02]: it.

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: fact that

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_02]: you actually

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_02]: thought about

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: it,

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_02]: put it into

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_02]: words,

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: put it into

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: your own

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_02]: hearing process

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_02]: that you

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_02]: heard your

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_02]: own words,

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: made you

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: think about

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_02]: it again,

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and here

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_02]: you are

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_02]: talking about

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_02]: it.

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: pretty important

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_02]: thing.

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: that's right

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: because it's

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: like an

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: archaeological dig.

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: it forces

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: you to

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: go a

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: little bit

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_00]: deeper

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: than you

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_00]: did the

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_00]: day before.

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Or you're

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: introduced to

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: an idea,

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_02]: like when we

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: came to

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Phoenix,

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: we were

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: introduced to

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Edgar Cayce,

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and all of

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: a sudden,

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: whoa,

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_02]: what's this

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: stuff?

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You know,

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and it was

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_02]: so interesting,

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and it has

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: taken us

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_02]: down many,

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_02]: many,

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_02]: many interesting

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: paths.

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I've only

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: heard about

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: him,

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I've never

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: read anything

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_00]: by him.

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_02]: The first

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: book we

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: read about

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Edgar Cayce

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: was There

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: is a River.

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: It's his

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: biography,

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and that

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_02]: in itself

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_02]: is fascinating,

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: but that's

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: what captivated

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: us.

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: All right,

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: read that.

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That's going

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: to be next

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: on my reading

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: list.

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Gladys,

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: once again,

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: it's always