Joe De Sena worked for the mafia. He learned a lot from them. But then he realized you can make more money doing good. So he switched lives. Which is something a lot of people want to learn. I asked how he did it. (You’ll hear his process). And you’ll hear how he developed Spartan Race, the world's leading. obstacle race. He's also the author of "Spartan Up, Spartan Fit and The Spartan Way" and host of "Spartan Up!" podcast.
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